I have to say, I really like the not really dead possibility. Loraan the bogeyman. Heh-Heh. - Attjen
Thank you. Maybe this is the "Last Contract"? Would be fitting to go out by killing the virtual "Professor Moriarty" of Dragaera.
--Majikjon
I was thinking last night of when Loraan could have been made an undead. There are three options right? 1) Before Taltos. 2) Between Taltos and Athyra. 3) He wasn't an undead.
If option 1, then that at least justifies why Loraan is still around. Hard to kill an undead if you don't know he's an undead. If option 2, that makes it really difficult to justify why Blackwand didn't destroy him. (Yes, yes Blackwand's choice. But really? This bastard's got my cousin, and now is trying to kill me, but I'm going to let him live?) It also makes it damn near impossible to justify how he became undead.
Picture this: Loraan shows up at the Paths of the Dead. Gods look at him and say: "Hey Loraan, how you doing? Say, we don't know how you feel about this but, even though you helped try to overthrow the legitimate empress, steal the orb, opened our world to the Jenoine, kept Verra's daughter in a tube, failed to give her to Morrolan (one of Verra's favorites) and then attacked him, had a portion of a great weapon designed to kill us.... how would you like to go back as an undead?" Hmmm. Don't know about you, but it doesn't work for me.
Option 3 doesn't explain dark water.
So, basically I see it as: He's been an undead for a long time. He may still not be destroyed. - Attjen
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Good rewrite, but we are still coming up with all sorts of justifications for an event that makes no sense. I just can't see Loraan being allowed to come back as undead after Taltos. - Attjen
- As I've suggested before, while Sethra has said that the gods do sometimes allow someone to leave the Paths of the Dead as an undead, we do not know for certain that that is the only way for someone to become an undead. It seems reasonable to speculate that there are other ways to become undead, especially for a necromancer, since he would by definition know a great deal about differing life-states.
- In addition, I note that the gods are somewhat lazy and apathetic. If Loraan managed to avoid coming to their attention, he might have left the Paths of the Dead as an undead without them ever noticing, or if they noticed, without bothering to stop him or warn anyone.
- Perhaps I should put that in the main speculation.
- --Davdi 19:06, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- See, I agree with that as speculation, and it deserves to go on the main page. For me it will always be (until SKZB tells me otherwise) Loraan undead before and after. Two problems with the same solution. - Attjen